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Dr Andr� Martin is an organisational psychologist and author of the book �Wrong Fit, Right Fit � Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever�. It seeks to solve the crisis of commitment in the modern workplace, positing that the issue isn�t good or bad culture, but the fit between our ideal way of working day-to-day and that of the companies we join.
He has spent over 20 years as the Chief Talent Officer of iconic brands such as Mars, Nike, Google, and Target. Now, acting as an operating advisor, coach, and consultant, Andr� continues to counsel leaders and founders to peak performance.
02:45 The impetus for Dr Andr� Martin writing the book �Wrong Fit, Right Fit�
His lightbulb moment happened after he decided to write the book
He started off researching building a highly engaged and committed culture in this new area of work
He asked the question �What makes a great company?� and got a diverse range of answers
05:19 Why we�re losing productivity in the workforce
According to Gallup�s 2022 report, there was an estimated loss of $7.8tn of productivity due to loss of engagement
The big claim: can we build a workplace where people come out happier, healthier and better?
08:30 Aligning values for talent acquisition
There are a lot of clear surface-level indicators
What does a random Tuesday afternoon look like?
Be clearer on the day-to-day culture of the work
10:35 What is a Wrong Fit and Right Fit
Many answers in to Wrong Fit: doing the wrong thing, getting the �Sunday Scaries�, felt like walking through mud each day
People lost confidence and purpose
Right Fit: doing the best work, felt like doing their craft, the hard work didn�t feel hard
13:24 The principles of Wrong Fit, Right Fit
The pandemic has opened up to broader definitions
The principles are timeless
People are searching for things that matter more than just bean bags and ping-pong tables
23:15 The focus is more on fitting in than the right fit
Writing with your non-dominant hand is what it feels like to not fit in
Founder-led companies often struggle with the Right Fit as, when they continue to grow and scale, it�s hard to teach others their ways of working
�Growth puts pressure on culture�
26:24 The relationship between alignment and autonomy
Alignment is about the framework to get the work done � which makes work easier
Freedom within the framework is autonomy
There is a common misconception that autonomy is just walking into work and doing what you want to do
29:11 The psychology of Right Fit
There are over 37 factors that drive diversity, which include age, learning style, introversion/ extroversion, etc.
How we work can be a galvanising force to make things happen
32:57 How to get out of a Wrong Fit situation
Pause and don�t jump too quickly as you might jump into another Wrong Fit
Find buffers, and how can you make your Wrong Fit bearable
Be careful with your time, find more meaningful work outside of work
Find your work doppelganger of someone who is like you but is thriving at work � explore how they are thriving
Don�t just sit and be a victim � there is a real cost to being in the Wrong Fit situation
39:02 How can you assess a company�s culture in the interview process?
The job interview is like a first date
Be careful with confirmation bias � pay attention to everything
Ask questions about day-to-day work and the people working there
Research online � external interviews, articles, LinkedIn network
There is no perfect fit, but know what matters to you
44:13 Reverse engineering the Wrong Fit
Get clear on how the company works at its best
Study the most successful tools
Invest in the onboarding process
Rethink your recruitment process
47:28 Some key concepts from �Wrong Fit, Right Fit�
Basking in reflective glory: we will tend to make decisions to be a part of places that are doing inherently well
This can be deceptive � the brand tells very little about how a company works
Just because a place isn�t working right now, it doesn�t mean it won�t work well in the future
50:53 Will AI make work more meaningful?
We need to think about our work in a different way
Andre thinks about 60% of meetings could be done asynchronously on a shared document instead of a meeting
Ensure there are more moments in your day of doing your craft
�Our yes is only important if we say no�
55:33 What is good management and what does it look like?
Managers are �star makers�
You get less feedback the higher up you go
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