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Pat Byrne has pioneered sleep and fatigue programs for athletes, sports teams and workplaces. He is the co-author of “Inconvenient Sleep: Why Teams Win and Lose”, where he uses his expertise to outline the impact of sleep on performance using history of sleep science and decades of research in the area. The book explores the facts and myths behind sleep, sleep science, and sleep monitoring.
He has over 30 years of experience in risk management, performance optimisation and health and safety. The sporting Organisations Pat has worked with include the National Olympic Committee, National Basketball Association, Major League Baseball, Australian Football League and the National Hockey League.
Tune in as we explore the evolution of sleep science, how to improve sleep quality and how understanding your body’s natural rhythm can help you to improve your own performance, whether personal, business or athletic.
Summary
(2:32) Lessons from growing up in Fort Nelson Canada ‘ an extremely cold and sometimes harsh environment
1,000 miles north of Vancouver
1,500 inhabitants
First watched TV aged 14
Stargazing and the Northern Lights
(4:42) The negative reputation when first entering occupational health and safety
Worked first in the occupational hygiene subfield: ‘recognition, evaluation, control’
Learnt the devastating impact of sleep and fatigue after his nephew died in a car crash asleep at the wheel
Working for the Canadian Registration Board of Occupational Hygienists
‘Nobody was talking about sleep and fatigue as a workplace or sports issue’
(8:13) Pat was the first to design a watch for use in sports performance
Marrying together pieces of available technology
It took ten years to make the technology, through his company of engineers
(10:07) Attributing the impact of sleep on performance
‘Humans are a complex and integrated system’
Controlled factors when conducting research in sleep labs
Correlating between length of sleep and reaction time
(11:10) The development of sleep science and why it took so long to evolve
The 1950s with Nathaniel Kleitman, aka the Father of Sleep Research
In 1992 a leading sleep researcher William Dement commented that America was a ‘vast reservoir of ignorance’ about sleep.
Systems to measure brain waves that were developed by Dement are still in place today
Lack of interest in the 1950s
Technology has enabled the development of sleep science
(12:14) How to best analyse sleep
Depends on the population size you are studying
For athletes, the end goal is performance. Sleep is a way to increase their reaction time
‘Poor sleep is not a disease, it’s a symptom’
There needs more research being diagnosing the issue behind an individual’s poor sleep
Poor sleep typically comes from biological sleep disorders (e.g. restless leg syndrome), mental health issues, organic diseases (e.g. diabetes), lifestyle choices, medications, etc.
(18:31) The types of mental health issues that poor sleep can indicate
Covid-19 has revealed how our mental health can impact sleep
Typically depression, bipolar disorder, manic depression
(19:54) Advice for people who sleep badly due to factors beyond their control
Lack of sleep training for medical doctors
Comprehensively review the factors
A sporadic nature of your work schedule
Pat is currently researching into how AI can help diagnose poor sleep quality
(22:51) What is Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep and why it is so relevant
Eugene Aserinsky’s discovery of REM
It’s the period of time in your sleep when you dream and your body freezes
(27:41) How do you approach treating something complex like paradoxical insomnia? Is there a way to convince the brain otherwise?
Paradoxical insomnia: spending hours lying awake at night, even though, to others, they appear to be sleeping
Impact of LED lights in urban environments, which contains blue light
Humans are diurnal: conditioned to sleep at night and be awake during the day
Melatonin is produced to help us fall asleep. Blue light stops this secretion of melatonin.
Blue light triggers you to stay awake
(32:36) Sleep supplements
Little research in sleep science supplements, ‘what they’re trying to do is sell you the dream’
Sleep supplements aren’t regulated because they are considered benign
‘People are often looking for solutions when they don’t know what the problem is’
(35:20) Wearable sleep technology
Treat it like a bathroom scale: how often do you want to stand on your bathroom scale?
Main issue is that they’re not individualised
Cheaper consumer models haven’t done the rigorous testing
‘You still have to do the work and figure out the problems’
It’s helped raise awareness around sleep
(39:40) How much sleep do you actually need?
It’s very rate, but some humans can get by sleeping four hours sleep a night
Every human is different
Typically 7.5 ‘ 9 hours sleep is the most sufficient amount
Taking reaction time tests
Sleeping too much indicates there’s a health issue that needs to be explored
A simple indication is if you’re feeling tired during the day
(44:01) Learning from high performers and how they develop good sleeping habits
Middle management supervisors tend to be the poorest sleepers in the workforce
Executives value sleep quality to think better
(45:42) Impact of fragment sleep and napping
‘You’re better off with a period of shorter good sleep than a longer period of bad sleep’
Afternoon naps is very effective in building up your sleep bank
The downside with napping in the afternoon is that it can push back your evening sleep time
(47:51) The impact of shift work and your sleep
Being awake at night is not normal, it goes against our DNA
Solution is education and managing your time
Avoid dangerous work at night
(51:29) The body’s circadian rhythm
Everything goes in cycles with our body
Sunlight plays a role in our natural circadian rhythms, so we need to avoid disrupting our biological systems
Researching into how dark and light affects our decision making
(56:56) Can we manage our body’s temperature rhythms to improve our performance day to day?
Kleitman discovered the correlation between body temperature and performance
‘The better reaction time you have, the higher your temperature, the better you’ll perform’
Key is to recognise what time of day you perform at your best
Be more body aware
Envisioning sleep science being taught at school
(1:00:22) Early bird vs night owl
Some research shows that most athletes are early birds
‘Don’t fight your biology: you are what you are’
(1:02:41) What advantages sleep has on athletes
80% of all research on sleep in athletic performance has been done in last ten years
Work one-to-one with individual to identify their ideal sleep length
(1:06:51) Habit and routines coaches can instil in their programs
Have consistent sleep times
(1:08:18) What to look out for in fatigue amongst your athletes
Monitor their reaction time to then drill down the factors
(1:09:46) The current state of sleep: are we on the right track to better wellbeing?
Treat it as an evolution
It’s like how strength training was a new concept in the 80s, yet normal today.
‘We’re learning something new everyday’
(1:11:17) How can companies optimise performance using fatigue management?
Started his research on the business side before he got into sport
How is the work scheduled and are workers given enough time to recover?
Sleep screening tests
Set examples and policies, e.g. napping centre
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